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Don't Just "Sit There!" ...
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#1 Benefits for Virtual Consultants?
- Michael S. DeVries

#2 Types of testing tools mostly used by software developers
- Methods & Tools, May 2003 - Facts Text Issue

#3 Don't Just "Sit There!" ... Do Something!
- Michael S. DeVries

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#4 What is your actual definition of a
Virtual Consultant?
- Michael S. DeVries

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---> [INTRO] <---
---> [HELP WANTED] <---

#5 Are you an experienced Perl, PHP, MySQL
Developer / Virtual Consultant?
- The Virtual Consulting Firm

---> [ADMIN] <---

#6 Apologies and Pleas

************* [NEW] ***************
#1 Benefits for Virtual Consultants?
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From: Michael S. DeVries
<DeVries@cris.com>
Reply To: Virtual-Consulting@topica.com
Date sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2003

Dear Fellow Virtual Consultants,

Since, I assume that most of your are most likely either self-employed
and/or frequently act as indepentant contractors and therefore do not
enjoy "corporate provided benefits" like health, dental and vision care,
life insurance, matching programs for 401K's, pre-tax savings accounts,
etc. ...

We would love to hear how you all get each of these benefits for
yourselves?

Which are the best health, dental and/or vision care providers for
Virtual Consultants who operate as self-employed and/or independent
contractors?

Do you use 401K's and/or Roth IRA's to provide your pre-tax savings
accounts?

If you have other Virtual Consultants as your employees ...
Do you provide these benefits for your Virtual Consultants?
If so, which are the best providers for Virtual Firms?

What if any other issues have you experienced relative to either
obtaining and / or providing benefits as / for a Virtual Consultant?

Let's hear what you all think on the topic(s) of benefits for
Virtual Consultants! :)

Thank you for your participation! :)

Your "Virtual" Moderator,

- Michael S. DeVries

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#2 Types of testing tools mostly used by software developers
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From: Michael S. DeVries
<DeVries@cris.com>
Reply To: Virtual-Consulting@topica.com
Date sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2003

Dear Fellow Virtual Consultants,

I saw the following article published in the "Methods & Tools"
Newsletter and felt that it would be of interest and benefit to us all
here in The Virtual Consulting Discussion List as well ...
And hopefully a source of some healthy follow-on discussions! :)

So ...

I have obtained the express permission of the publisher of the "Methods
& Tools" Newsletter to reproduce this, and other mutually interesting
and beneficial articles from "Methods & Tools" herein! :)

I hope that you find it both interesting and beneficial ...
And we certainly want to hear what you all think about what is stated in
this article, ok?

Source: Methods & Tools,
May 2003 - Facts Text Issue,
www.methodsandtools.com

*** Numbers ************************************************************

* Testing tools

According to a survey published in Software Development Times, here are
the types of testing tools mostly used by software developers:

Runtime debugger 69.2%
Performance tester 39.3%
Source code analyzer 33.1%
Web application load tester 31.0%
Web application performance tester 29.5%

At the bottom of the list, we find:

Regression tester 16.1%
Black-box tester 13.6%
White-box tester 9.0%

Source: Software Development Times, April 1, 2003

As you can see, most development teams work without tools to manage (and
repeat) the functional testing activity. Testing remains a neglected
area of software development. Sure, how could you find time to automate
testing when you can hardly find enough time to perform tests at the end
of projects?
:-]
-------- [End of "Method & Tools" Article] -----------

So ... What do you all think about all this?

Do you find these statistics accurate for your projects?
How about for your clients' projects?

What does all this say about the current "state of the art or practice"
of software development and testing?

What should be done about this "current state"?

Don't be shy! ;) Let's hear what you have to say about all this!

I hope this helps! :)

Your "Virtual" Moderator,

- Michael S. DeVries

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#3 Don't Just "Sit There!" ... Do Something!
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From: Michael S. DeVries
<DeVries@cris.com>
Reply To: Virtual-Consulting@topica.com
Date sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2003

Dear Fellow Virtual Consultants,

Rather than wait for an "upturn" in the Internet (and/or general)
economy ...
Why don't we just work together to create one?! :)

If you don't believe that this is possible ...

Then please allow me to share with you a recent and ongoing
"story" / "case study" where and how this is happening right now! :)
(If on a relatively moderate but significant and growing scale)

Recently, a quite renowned Internet Marketer ...
(whom shall remain "nameless" unless and until JA lets me know its
ok to divulge it ;))

... extended a very unique and attractive offer.

Those that could perceive the great value of this offer began
"scooping it up", even though it was being sold at a non-trivial price.

And even before receiving the products they purchased ...
They were offered a very attractive opportunity to become an
Affiliate and market this offer to others.
So, many of those that purchased this offer began marketing and
advertising this offer themselves to others, thereby stimulated
additional expenditures in online and offline marketing and
advertising, which we have all been saying has been kind of "slow"
recently, right?

Further, since of these purchasers needed to customize, install and
host these products, and they themselves are primarily non-
technical, they are engaging the services of consultants,
developers, web masters and web hosters, etc. to help them.
And when these IT firms / professionals have more paying clients,
they in term have to engage more developers, testers, etc. and buy
more software, hardware and other services, thereby stimulating
more economic activity, in otherwise "slumping" IT and computer
markets :), right?

And, this Internet Marketer established a community forum for
anyone who purchased this offer to share their ideas about
promoting it, implementing it, how to use and sell products based on
it, etc. The synergy between the members of this community is
further generating opportunities for partnerships, joint ventures, and
members buying, selling and providing products and services to one
another.

Finally, as the purchasers of this offer develop and market their
customized products and services based on those they originally
purchased, there is the opportunity for similar cycles of economic
activity to begin again! :)

And as people have more paying business, they become more
willing to buy other products and services, thereby stimulating more
economic activity "downstream" ... and so on ... and so on ...
Right?! :)

Already, IMHO, the amount of economic activity stimulated by this
relatively small group of people, has been quite impressive! :)
And it all started by someone extending an offer wherein the value
of the opportunity for economic benefit far outweighed the cost of it!

So ...

What is the moral (point) of this (real life) story? ...

Rather than sitting around and waiting for an "upturn" in the Internet
(and/or general) economy ...
Why don't we work together to create (another) one?! :)

Where and how would you all like to start creating our own Internet /
economic upturn?!

Hope this helps,

Your "Virtual" Moderator,

- Michael S. DeVries

P.S. If you want to know who this "Internet Marketer" is referred to
above, please contact me directly and ask, ok?

P.P.S. If you don't believe that this "parable" is a "real life story",
then please see the "Help Wanted" Posting included below! ;)

Michael S. DeVries

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#4 What is your actual definition of a
Virtual Consultant?
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From: Michael S. DeVries
<DeVries@cris.com>
Reply To: Virtual-Consulting@topica.com
Date sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2003

In the VCDL Digest #6 May 30, 2003
Ronni Rhodes wrote:

> What is your actual definition of a Virtual
> Consultant, Michael?

That's an excellent question Ronni! :)

And Welcome to The Virtual Consulting Discussion List, Ronni! :)
And Thank you for your participation! :)

> I ask this a bit hesitantly as this is a new
> area for me.

Don't be shy! Jump right in! The "water's" fine! :)
And we don't bite! (hard ;), jus' kidding ok? ;))

> Aren't most of us who offer
> services over the Internet doing
> consulting directly or indirectly - whether
> or not we label ourselves as such?

Well, Let's see ...

What is the actual definition of a "Virtual Consultant"?

And you all are welcome to disagree, add to, comment on, my opinions of
how I would define a "Virtual Consultant", ok? ...

But, here goes ...

>From a search for the term "Consultant" at Dictionary.com
(I know I'm such an Internet "junkie"! ;))

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“con·sul·tant ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kn-sltnt) n.
One who gives expert or professional advice.
One who consults another. ...
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And ...
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vir·tu·al ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vűrch-l) ... Computer Science.
Created, simulated, or carried on by means of a computer or computer
network: virtual conversations in a chatroom.
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Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language,
Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published
by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
--------------------- ”

So ...

I guess a "Virtual Consultant" is anyone who gives "advice" by means of
a computer and/or computer network! :)

So ... What do you all think of that?
Ronni, that seems to support your definition of a "Virtual Consultant"
quite well, doesn't it?
Since if you are providing a service on the internet ...

I would say that constitutes providing "advice" since the client is
purchasing your service rather than doing it themselves due to some
perceived expertise on your part that they are willing to pay you for,
right?

And the Internet certainly is the ultimate computer network, right?! :)

(So ... See you were right? Don't be shy about it! ;))

So ... Yes! Virtual Consulting is very inclusive and applicable to
almost anyone doing business via the internet, computer, etc.

What do the rest of you think of these definitions of Virtual
Consulting?

> When we receive an inquiry from a potential
> client, it's rare when one e-mail or phone call
> "cements" the deal. We usually spend time
> explaining the process (streaming), how
> we do it (rudimentary), and what to expect etc.

Sure!

First, don't you have to establish repoire with the potential client?
Just as you would if you met face-to-face for the first time?
How often do you (successfully) close a "deal" the first time you meet
someone?
And don't you still have to set expectations and describe your processes
for providing your services? Whether IRL (in real life) or Virtually?
IMHO, the same tenets apply, it's just the medium in which you execute
these tenets that may be a bit different in "the virtual world"

What do the rest of you think of this?

> Are we selling ourselves short by not calling
> this "consulting" and charging for same?

Well again, as we learned / saw above ...
You are Consultants per the dictionary definition of such, right?! :)

And what does what you charge for your advice and/or service have to do
with whether or not you are a Consultant?

I know it's a stereotypical / perception thing that Consultants are
expensive, right?

But, I don't see any reason why this has to be the case, do you?

Excellent questions and Great Topic, Ronni! :)

Ok, so ... who would like to give us your definition of a "Virtual
Consultant" and/or "Virtual Consulting"?

Thank you again for your participation,

Your "Virtual" Moderator,

- Michael S. DeVries

************** [HELP WANTED] ****************
#5 Are you an experienced Perl, PHP, MySQL
Developer / Virtual Consultant?
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From: Michael S. DeVries
<DeVries@cris.com>
Reply To: Virtual-Consulting@topica.com
Date sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2003

If you are interested in getting paid as a Virtual Consultant for
providing Perl, PHP, MySQL Development Work From Home (and/or wherever
and whenever you want) starting today! ...

Go to:

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For more information, including how to submit yourself for
consideration, for paying work as a Virtual Consultant with
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We look forward to hearing from you and engaging you in paying work, as
a Virtual Consultant of The Virtual Consulting Firm in the near future!
:)

- The Virtual Consulting Firm
http://www.TheVCF.com

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#6 Apologies and Pleas
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Dear Virtual Consulting Discussion List Members,

Firstly, please accept my sincere apologies for the greater than
desirable time lapses between the last few Digests of The Virtual
Consulting Discussion List.

Actually, it is kind of ironic that due to the overwhelming growth of
our virtual consulting business, I am struggling, but striving to find
the time to devote to The Virtual Consulting Discussion List that it
truly deserves.
I do have a whole list(s) of topics that I would like to discuss herein,
but I also don't want to "short change" either these topics or you all
by trying to rush through a discussion of them, so I will save them for
later when I may devote the time and attention that they and you
deserve, ok?
But, I will continue to strive to make improvements in these areas for
the benefit of all of us! :)

Please also accept my Pleas for your help in this! :)

It makes for much less of a task to compose a Digest of The Virtual
Consulting Discussion List, and IMHO, much more interesting and lively
reading when we have all kinds of Great Posting from our Members! :)
And don't you all get sick of my ramblings anyway? ;)

Further, it is through your participation that you get the opportunity
to network with other Virtual Consultants and "show your stuff"! :)
So ... It's a "Big Win-Win" for everyone when you actively participate,
ok?

Your help and participation are very much appreciated! :)

Your "Virtual" Moderator,

- Michael S. DeVries

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